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Bone Open Beta “soon”

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Posted by:Ryan on Wednesday, 14 Feb, 2001 @ 12:17 AM
 
Be Inc

According to this post on the Yahoo BeOS stock message boards (And mentioned here in our forums), the next beta of BONE (the new networking environment) will be publically available, and will be available soon. read on…

Apparently Howard Berkey(the engineer working on BONE) replied to a users request to be on the beta team with “BONE open beta should start soon, so just wait to release for that :-)

Thats a pretty good sign. While this does come from a stock board, and is therefore questionable, this is not the first stirrings we have heard about people getting this sort of response. It’s just the first time we’ve seen it posted.

Let’s hope OpenGL follows suit, and we get a sort-of beta point release or something. :D



45 Responses to “Bone Open Beta “soon””

  1. LoCal Says:

    yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    That’s are really good news.
    o0O( Mhhhh….BONE )

    LoCal

  2. Nimdok Says:

    In Response To LoCal @ 02/14/2001 12:30:56 AM

    Re: yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    The funny thing is that this seems to have come about from a single email.

  3. Antares Says:

    In Response To LoCal @ 02/14/2001 12:30:56 AM

    Re: yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    I`d rather have R6

  4. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To Nimdok @ 02/14/2001 12:43:39 AM

    Re: yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    the email was from _the_ developer of BONE though.. so, if there is someone who would know, he would be it.

  5. Anomalous Cowherd Says:

    In Response To Antares @ 02/14/2001 12:48:01 AM

    R6 is undefined

    There’s no such thing at “R6″, so stop whining. BONE is a good thing and I’m very glad it’s coming soon.

    On the other hand, having to configure _real_ networking the Unix Way will probably result in mass confusion among the unwashed masess. *sigh*

    Let the hysteria begin! ;-)

  6. Ruprect Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 1:02:36 PM

    “real” networking?

    Ok, my ignorance is shining. What’s “real” networking? You mean to tell me that BillWare has been duping me into thinking that a simple LAN was a simple thing to configure?

    I feel violated.

    Nevertheless, I’d much rather have BONE and OGL than R6. R5 is humming right along.

  7. malu Says:

    In Response To Ruprect @ 02/14/2001 1:36:30 PM

    Re:

    And what says this is not R6?

  8. malu Says:

    In Response To Ruprect @ 02/14/2001 1:36:30 PM

    Re:

    And what says this is not R6?

  9. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Nutcase @ 02/14/2001 12:51:51 AM

    Re: yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    True, but we have no way of verifying the email.

    I will say that overall it sounds pretty valid, but I wish Be would just say something.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    HOOT! HOOT! BEEP!@$%@

    what an article to come back from lunch to!
    and to think, im getting cable modem on sat! Just in time!
    Hopefully OpenGL comes out at the same time,cause my radeon came in a couple days ago!

    Lucky me!

  11. Zippy Says:

    BONE!

    BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE!

    Sorry, everyone. It’s just that there are three or four things I’m really, really waiting for to help make BeOS 0 of my PC experience. BONE is one of them.

    BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE! BONE!

  12. Anomalous Cowherd Says:

    In Response To malu @ 02/14/2001 2:16:36 PM

    What Says It’s not R6

    Perhaps the lack of the letter “R” and the number “6″ might be clues for you.

  13. Anomalous Cowherd Says:

    My favourite BONE apps

    BONE means being able to port a ton of great Unix stuff to BeOS. Besides having GOOD networking, we’ll now have ready access (only a compile away, in most cases) to a lot of really nifty stuff.

    sshd and BitchX will certainly be favorites. Anyone care to list what stuff *you* are lusting after once BONE arrives?

    …and on a related note, Tatu Ylonen of the SSH Communications Security Group is now demanding that that the OpenSSH project change its name because it “infringes on the SSH trademark”. How ridiculous can you get? The story’s at:
    http://deadly.org/article.php3?sid=20010214131316

  14. Anomalous Cowherd Says:

    In Response To Ruprect @ 02/14/2001 1:36:30 PM

    Real Networking

    > “a simple LAN was a simple thing to configure”

    True enough. BillWare tends to present everything in pre-processed, easily digestible bites of knowledge. They give you a Product(tm) with a couple shiny buttons to click on. People these rarely read beyond the first sentence; there’s a huge culture of instant-gratification-seeking folks looking for what they perceive as the Easy Way Out, and to them, BillWare is playing a siren song.

    Consumer grade BillWare (btw, i really like that term) is little more than toy networking. Setting up a simple lan IS simple. Half of the difficulty we suffer through in setting up that lan is due to the #@$! BillWare in the first place ;-)

  15. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 3:17:31 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    i want the jabber server and icecast servers!

  16. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 3:41:47 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    Jabber server needs PTthreads.

  17. Technospider Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 3:41:47 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    Why do you need Icecast with SoundPlay around? That’s silly.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 3:45:30 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    would the PTThreads port be simpler with BONE?

  19. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Technospider @ 02/14/2001 3:47:27 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    im just used to icecast. ill have to look more into the streaming abilities os soundplay…

    anyone know when the release off ogg vorbis is coming out that supports low bitrates for streaming?

  20. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 3:17:31 PM

    BONE = portability?

    Ok, I’m scratching my head here. Why does a new networking environment allow for porting apps from Un*x? Am I missing something here?

  21. georges Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 5:11:37 PM

    Re: BONE = portability?

    It supports different ways of interacting with the hardware/software that Unix systems use.
    Um, look at this for some gory details:

    http://www-classic.be.com/aboutbe/benewsletter/volume_IV/Issue05.html#Insight

  22. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 3:17:31 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    err…. uh…. a port of the unix backoriface client! :-)

  23. Anonymous Says:

    Bone Wicked :)

    Awesome … once we get Bone then MySQL port can continue and then BeOS will be our new intranet server.

    Go Be !

  24. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 4:19:09 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    Porting PTH (not pthreads… the Jabber Server needs PTH) to BeOS and using it in any apps would be like using a Beetle engine on a Ferrari F40. PTH is for operating systems that do not have threads. A better approach would be to create a wrapper around the native BeOS threads… I think that it should work.

  25. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 5:11:37 PM

    Re: BONE = portability?

    BONE inplements a BSD-like interface for applications so it makes it easier for you to port Unix apps (i.e. less work to do).

  26. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 2:23:51 PM

    Re: yeeeeehhhhaaaaaaa

    You will hear from Be… As soon as they release BONE (if it will be ever released, of course). :)

  27. Kart Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 5:11:37 PM

    Re: BONE = portability?

    blah.

  28. Kart Says:

    In Response To Kart @ 02/15/2001 12:04:35 AM

    BeGroovy Post Submission is Screwed Up

    It might have something to do with the new system. I have noticed that previewing a post dooms it to fail when you try to post it.
    This should be italicThis should be bold

  29. Little Grey Says:

    BONE Beta

    With BONE pending a beta release, hopefully the BeWine project can get back on course. AFAIK, the lack of BSD-sockets has been holding it back.

    Hopefully that will just be one of MANY great networking apps coming soon :)

    Thanks again Be

  30. Kart Says:

    In Response To Kart @ 02/15/2001 12:15:28 AM

    Re: BeGroovy Post Submission is Screwed Up

    Really, really, really screwed up.

    is the problem html in posts?

  31. Kart Says:

    In Response To Kart @ 02/15/2001 12:21:45 AM

    Re: BeGroovy Post Submission is Screwed Up

    Apparently not. BeGroovy is randomly eating my posts 90% of the time. I just have to cross my fingers and hope it works. I have given up all hope of actually posting the actual content originally intended as a reply, which would have been, basically: read the Be Newsletter

  32. Kart Says:

    In Response To Kart @ 02/15/2001 12:23:12 AM

    Re: BeGroovy Post Submission is Screwed Up

    Ok, html at the end of a post seems to work, but does html in the middle work? That may be the problem.

  33. Kart Says:

    In Response To Kart @ 02/15/2001 12:23:52 AM

    Re: BeGroovy Post Submission is Screwed Up

    Apologies for filling up this discussion with BeGroovy testing.IE 5.5 worksMozilla only “sort of works”

  34. BGA Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/15/2001 09:16:51 AM

    Re: New Beta 6

    It is as mature as a *BETA* is expected to be. You know… The beta tag is not there just to make it more interesting. :)

  35. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 5:22:11 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    well the NMAP port scanner . BeOS port would be very very cool !

    checjt out NMAP. on insecure.org

    NMAP is trhe best port scann inthe world !

    /the ArmorKing.

  36. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 1:02:36 PM

    Re: R6 is undefined

    Any joy over the alleged release of beta BONE is completely over-shadowed by the concept of unwashed masses. Tell us more. Masses, thats what we need!!
    aparsons (not anonymous!)

  37. Anonymous Says:

    New Beta 6

    Lurking the BeBugs, the new beta6
    of BONE seems not mature, yet :-(

  38. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 3:41:47 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    Icecast has been ported to BeOS for a LOOOOOOONG time now. *duh*

  39. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/14/2001 5:25:43 PM

    Re: Bone Wicked :)

    Yea, but I would really like to see an ODBC client app for BeOS too. -steve

  40. Anonymous Says:

    hmmmm

    soon means in 6 months to a year in Be time

  41. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anomalous Cowherd @ 02/14/2001 3:17:31 PM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    Xitami web server !

  42. Anonymous Says:

    Net Positive 2.2.2 - BONE/7

    With the BONE/7 perhaps we could have an updated Net , but probably not before May or June…

    The BONE/6 reported in BeBugs.Be.Com is clearly not ready for the public.

  43. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 02/15/2001 10:02:08 AM

    Re: My favourite BONE apps

    not the new builds. only the s-moldy old ones.

  44. Jace Says:

    In Response To Little Grey @ 02/15/2001 12:21:33 AM

    Re: BONE Beta

    Yes, BeWine has been waiting for it. All help is appreciated, so go see our pages:

    for info:
    http://bewine.loungenet.org/project.html

    for faq:
    http://bewine.loungenet.org/faq.html

    for files:
    http://bewine.loungenet.org/files.html

    -Jace
    BeWine Web Guy

  45. Menyhart Russell Says:

    There’s a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.

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