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JLG Column updated : ” The Transfer Of Power”

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Posted by:Ryan on Monday, 22 Jan, 2001 @ 10:38 PM
 
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JLG has just updated his column on Be’s webpage. He talks about how the shift is from COMDEX to CES and the appliances are taking focus. It’s very interesting to read and hear some of his thoughts, and to see how he puts a few various observations together for a bigger whole… Have a look-see.



34 Responses to “JLG Column updated : ” The Transfer Of Power””

  1. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/23/2001 07:29:08 AM

    Re: Why is the world so polarised?

    Personally I would have thought that there should be potential for the computer to be compatible and cooperative with the little bits of household wizardry.

    Sure, but there is also a huge market of people that don’t need or own a computer that might like a webpad, a HARP device, and all kinds of new IA’s that have yet to be dreampt of…

    Then your PC could, as well as performing all the above functions, serve the MP3 stream, or pick up the stream from the MP3 server, or send the output from its DVD drive to the living room TV or do many many other things…

    Is this not the potential of BeOS combined with BeIA devices?

    Well, why would you need a full-fledged PC to serve MP3/DVD when the HARP device can do that and more (well not DVD, yet…)? Sure, you will definitely be able to stream MP3 to your webpad from your computer if you own one, but the beauty is you will no longer need a PC to do that specific task of serving multimedia to your household appliances.

    Imagine a few years in the future, when we’ve got 100mbit wireless devices with terabyte or petabyte drives, and internet-enabled TV’s, stereo speakers, webpads, etc that receive wireless, streamed signals from your “entertainment console.”

    It could simultaneously stream 5-10 DVD quality video signals, a couple dozen high-quality digital music streams, etc. All this from one console, all at the same time.

    I think this is what Be intends HARP to be able to do. Don’t you think that type of device would have a frigging huge market? No computer needed, which means no more complexity than your standard stereo receiver or DVD player…

    Computers will still be useful, but there are all kinds of markets available for these internet appliances…

    The possibilities are endless for IA’s and BeIA. :-)

    Anyone that tells me there isn’t a market for IA’s, or think that PC’s and IA’s can’t live together, or that IA’s will fail because we’ve already seen things like iOpener fail… well, I basically ignore those people. They have no idea! ;-)

  2. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/23/2001 07:29:08 AM

    My response… revised. :-)

    I missed a closing italics tag on my last response… here’s a fixed version. (I wish I could edit my response or at least preview it!!!!)

    Personally I would have thought that there should be potential for the computer to be compatible and cooperative with the little bits of household wizardry.

    Sure, but there is also a huge market of people that don’t need or own a computer that might like a webpad, a HARP device, and all kinds of new IA’s that have yet to be dreampt of…

    Then your PC could, as well as performing all the above functions, serve the MP3 stream, or pick up the stream from the MP3 server, or send the output from its DVD drive to the living room TV or do many many other things…

    Is this not the potential of BeOS combined with BeIA devices?

    Well, why would you need a full-fledged PC to serve MP3/DVD when the HARP device can do that and more (well not DVD, yet…)? Sure, you will definitely be able to stream MP3 to your webpad from your computer if you own one, but the beauty is you will no longer need a PC to do that specific task of serving multimedia to your household appliances.

    Imagine a few years in the future, when we’ve got 100mbit wireless devices with terabyte or petabyte drives, and internet-enabled TV’s, stereo speakers, webpads, etc that receive wireless, streamed signals from your “entertainment console.”

    It could simultaneously stream 5-10 DVD quality video signals, a couple dozen high-quality digital music streams, etc. All this from one console, all at the same time.

    I think this is what Be intends HARP to be able to do. Don’t you think that type of device would have a frigging huge market? No computer needed, which means no more complexity than your standard stereo receiver or DVD player…

    Computers will still be useful, but there are all kinds of markets available for these internet appliances…

    The possibilities are endless for IA’s and BeIA. :-)

    Anyone that tells me there isn’t a market for IA’s, or think that PC’s and IA’s can’t live together, or that IA’s will fail because we’ve already seen things like iOpener fail… well, I basically ignore those people. They have no idea! ;-)

  3. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    Confusing headline

    For a minute I thought JLG’s column was updated since “The Balance of Power” was first published… about 3-4 days ago. ;-)

  4. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    Whoops…

    That should say “Transfer of Power.”

  5. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To IAmWhoIHam @ 01/23/2001 00:39:18 AM

    Re: Confusing headline

    hehe. didnt hear about it till today, if i remember correctly. Stuff falls by when things get hectic. Oh well.

  6. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To IAmWhoIHam @ 01/23/2001 00:39:56 AM

    Re: Whoops…

    fixed. damn im tired. :P

  7. wobegon Says:

    style vs substance?

    I’ve never been to Comdex yet, but I’m getting the impression that it’s losing it’s relevance.

    It seems like a better idea to divide exibitions into specialty core groups rather than, like comdex, try to cram every thing under one roof.

    The only time I actually saw a comdex was while watching that pbs special “Triumph of the nerds” , it showed jugglers, comedians, clowns, dancers, free t-shirts to everyone that screamed out the products name loud enough to be heard across the other side of the building.

    seems like a real freak show.

    places like ces seem like a place you can actualy talk to someone maybe make something interesting happen, or just get work done.

    perhaps both places are nessacary, comdex serves a usefull place to generate hype mostly for the media, ces and the like are great to actually deliver real useable information about your product.

  8. Adrian Says:

    Why is the world so polarised?

    OK, so we have yet another illustration of the fact that the world is shifting from PCs to little bits of gadgetry around the home. It would surprise me, however, if people stop having computers and instead get seperate typewriter, games console, spreadsheet machine, graphics tablet (drawing board), and electronic organiser. Is that not a bit backward?

    Personally I would have thought that there should be potential for the computer to be compatible and cooperative with the little bits of household wizardry. Then your PC could, as well as performing all the above functions, serve the MP3 stream, or pick up the stream from the MP3 server, or send the output from its DVD drive to the living room TV or do many many other things…

    Is this not the potential of BeOS combined with BeIA devices?

  9. Thomas Says:

    JLG

    Unless JLG has something to say about BeOS NOT BeIA, I’m not interested in what he has to say.

  10. Jared White Says:

    In Response To Thomas @ 01/23/2001 1:29:32 PM

    Re: JLG

    Well, gee, maybe some people aren’t interested in what YOU have to say. In case you hadn’t noticed, BeIA is Be’s only ticket to fame (and, more importantly, money) at this point, so you’d BETTER be interested in what JLG has to say about BeIA because BeIA IS THE FUTURE OF BE, INC.! Get a grip, drip!

    Jared

  11. gabbarsingh Says:

    In Response To Jared White @ 01/23/2001 2:02:36 PM

    Re: JLG

    Hey Jared - are you the same as the subway guy?

    :-)

  12. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To Thomas @ 01/23/2001 1:29:32 PM

    Who cares what you’re interested in?

    This isn’t BeOSGroovy, this is BeGroovy. As such, they should cover all Be news.

    Any site that covers BeOS and not BeIA does not get me as a reader…

    So, feel free to stick your head in the ground, but don’t expect others to care.

  13. Thomas Says:

    In Response To IAmWhoIHam @ 01/23/2001 5:02:30 PM

    Re: Who cares what you’re interested in?

    Notice how this pussy never gives his email address.

  14. IAMWHOIAM Says:

    Need better support for BeOS

    Who cares about BeIA. What about all the loyal BeOS people. DON’T FORGET ABOUT THE REST OF US JLG!!!!

  15. ssMAN Says:

    BeOS

    I think that if Be Inc. doesn’t want to support BeOS, that is their descision…but, then they should release the source code to BeOS and let other people support it who give a crap about it. The way it is now, their website is one of the worst about BeOS. C’mon guys, breaking FAQ’s updated in 99, and 2000?? Let someone else handle BeOS!!!!!

  16. Brent P. Newhall Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/23/2001 07:29:08 AM

    Re: Why is the world so polarised?

    Then your PC could, as well as performing all the above functions, serve the MP3 stream, or pick up the stream from the MP3 server, or send the output from its DVD drive to the living room TV or do many many other things…

    The problem there is raw processing power. Do you really want your PC to be managing an entire household’s worth of chores, in real-time, while you’re trying to use the computer for something productive (programming, or playing a computer game, or what-have-you)?

    Also, what happens when the hard drive on your PC fails? Everything that it controls goes kaput. Single point of failure.

    I imagine that the PC will become a centralized device that will manage a lot of these other devices to certain extents. So, while the PC won’t actually download music treams or store the mp3s, it will interface with your stereo device to show you what’s playing at any given time, or let you switch to a different playlist. You can let the stereo equipment do its own thing, and touch it from your PC as desired.

    Ditto with home automation (lighting, locks, etc.). I’d rather have all of that controlled via a separate device for security purposes, plus a couple of webpads that communicate with it wirelessly.

  17. Brent P. Newhall Says:

    In Response To ssMAN @ 01/23/2001 5:42:23 PM

    Re: BeOS

    Yes, this message is a troll. But, what the heck.

    What makes you say Be doesn’t want to support BeOS? Please show some evidence.

    There is no direct evidence that Be has stopped working on BeOS. They’re just not talking about what they’re working on. That’s all.

    And regarding the FAQ’s. So, some of their FAQ’s haven’t had any change since 1999. Do you want them to update all of their FAQ’s to say “Nothing’s changed regarding this issue, but we’re still alive here on January 23, 2001.”? I really don’t see what there is to complain about here.

  18. Brent P. Newhall Says:

    In Response To Nutcase @ 01/23/2001 00:45:49 AM

    Re: Whoops…

    It’s OK, Nutcase. We appreciate your effort. :-)

  19. Brent P. Newhall Says:

    In Response To wobegon @ 01/23/2001 03:40:27 AM

    Re: style vs substance?

    There are panels at Comdex, though.

    For example, there will be an “OS Shootout” that compares the various alternative operating systems, and BeOS will be one of the OS’s represented.

  20. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To gabbarsingh @ 01/23/2001 3:57:42 PM

    Re: JLG

    ROTFLMAO….

    dear god… *gasp*… i can’t breathe…..

    hahahahahahahaha….

  21. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To IAmWhoIHam @ 01/23/2001 5:02:30 PM

    Re: Who cares what you’re interested in?

    true fact… but i do tend to be more interested in beos…. just gotta be truthful.

    That said, some of the BeIA stuff is really cool. :)

  22. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To Brent P. Newhall @ 01/23/2001 5:53:27 PM

    Re: BeOS

    Yes, this message is a troll. But, what the heck

    Is it? Cool! I don’t think i’ve ever had major trolls before. I wonder if we will get regulars? :P

    That said, are the number of trolls growing, or is the term just being more loosely applied? Cause i remember messages like this from the past that weren’t really trolls.. hmm.

  23. Arc Wave Says:

    Transfer of Power (?)

    These Internet and Smart consumer devices are nifty to say the least. I see lots of potential in this consumer space and I will probably start finding these specialty gadgets in my home.

    Personal computers (PCs) are not for everyone on planet Earth. However, they are used for countless operations/tasks in businesses, homes and schools.

    I doubt the human race has seen the end of the personal computer, it’s life isn’t that old. In my mind, it’s starting to “take shape.”

    I know personally, I haven’t tapped out my PCs potential uses at home.

    True, the interfaces found on most desktop PCs are considered difficult to learn from a non-PC/newbie perspective. Why not re-think this model of how we interact with the PC?

    I see a number of people saying “PC’s are on their way out.” Is that really true? In my personal opinion, no.

    The ideals and fundamentals of how we use a PC is constantly being worked on. Companies like Eazel, Apple, Be Inc, IBM, Microsoft, Amiga Inc, QNX and others are making strides in human interaction with a PC.

    Xerox gave us the mouse and windowed interface. From that point in time, the PC has moved forward. For some people the PC has become even more difficult to use. The PC/computer needs a better human interface, that is clear in my mind.

    Why do the above companies and Open Source camps keep pushing the interface technology forward?

    Competition and money and/or fame. That answer is too harsh. It’s more than that, it’s some designer/developer/programmer/engineer/visionary sitting back in a chair thinking, “Hey, I bet I could make/do that better.”

    The PC isn’t dieing, it’s evolving.

  24. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To Thomas @ 01/23/2001 5:23:28 PM

    Yeah right…

    So some 13-year old kid like you can subscribe me to spam lists? No thanks. The only people that would ever want to email me on these forums is people wanting to flame me…

    P.S. Notice how this pussy never has a good comeback?

  25. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To IAMWHOIAM @ 01/23/2001 5:31:45 PM

    Nice try dumbass

    Thomas, go play with your friends outside please. (Or at least that’s what your mother SHOULD be saying right about now.)

  26. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    Damnit!

    Why do these threads always have to devolve into “The PC is dying” or “The PC is NOT dying”?

    PC’s are general purpose tools. They will not die until all of their usefulness and functionality is usurped by “appliances.” Until such time, feel free to own both an IA and a PC. Really, it’s OK!

  27. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To IAmWhoIHam @ 01/24/2001 00:37:28 AM

    Arghhhh

    Nutcase we need “preview” or “edit” functionality here soon please. Then I would have noticed I meant dieing and not dying. :-)

  28. Lost Slashdot Troll Says:

    In Response To IAMWHOIAM @ 01/23/2001 5:31:45 PM

    Re: Need better support for BeOS

    is copy and paste really that hard?

    – Lost Slashdot Troll, but feels right at home, well if someone posts something about sex, and goats…

  29. Brent P. Newhall Says:

    In Response To Nutcase @ 01/23/2001 6:46:08 PM

    Re: BeOS

    I’d say that the message itself is a troll, though I can’t comment on the original poster. It has a wacky premise (that Be no longer supports BeOS), and then wanders off into rant territory.

    :shrug: Maybe I’m mis-applying the term.

    And yeah, I’ve always felt that one of the big indicators of success is when one gets a significant moron population. Which hasn’t happened to BeGroovy yet, really. BeNews seems to have a steady undercurrent of them, though.

  30. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/23/2001 07:29:08 AM

    It just seems that…

    …the ever present PC would enhance the usefulness of the IAs if it was linked to them. You shouldn’t need to have a PC to run IAs but if you have one then the option of your computer printing logs from the household IAs or e-mailing you status reports on the house while you are away, or mastering and configuring your IA network, seems like a good idea.

    Also, what if you could just have one piece of software on your PC to set up your MP3 stream, lighting, video recorder (and maybe the oven too) for that evening of the dinner party?

    In short, it would be nice for people who do have PCs to be able to use them in conjunction with the IAs, BeOS should be compatible with BeIAs and this should be a wide market and incentive for Be to keep developing BeOS.

  31. Adrian Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/23/2001 07:29:08 AM

    That wasn’t anonymous, it was:

    Just forgot to fill in the name field.

  32. IAmWhoIHam Says:

    In Response To Adrian @ 01/24/2001 1:29:07 PM

    Re: That wasn’t anonymous, it was:

    Are you responding to yourself? :-)

  33. Atilla Says:

    ..about Pointers & Headers..!

    Humm.
    To this context, I read somewhere that the gros of the sales Be Inc. made was selling BeOS.
    It’s a fact to accept (for both Mr. Sakkoman and beloved Mr. JLG), that BeOS is still the source of existence.
    # 1 : BeIA won’t receive their breakpoint this year.
    So it’s clever (in the interest of Be Inc. & their existence) to keep up to date on the Desktop with BeOS. No OS sales - no money in this branch. Money, that mostly needed for developpment and a bit for PR.
    # 2 : CeBit is a *very* important exhibition ( & it’s the biggest, by the way) - so hopefully Mr. Calmon & Friends from Paris made their homework and do not repeat their mistake from CeBit 2000. What a poor Presentation. Hey Man - I mean it’s BeOS, not any sh.tty OS made at a lonely night desperately seeking a woman.
    # 3 : The idea, to cooperate with big players like Sony on BeIA is great - more companies hopefully to come….
    so longus

  34. georges Says:

    In Response To Atilla @ 01/26/2001 10:31:56 AM

    Re: ..about Pointers & Headers..!

    Hey Man - I mean it’s BeOS, not any sh.tty OS made at a lonely night desperately seeking a woman.

    Hahahaha… good one.

    By the way, I don’t think $16,000 is enough money to keep Be Inc alive. Yes, that’s ALL they made last year on R5.

    [i]BeIA won’t receive their breakpoint this year.[/i]
    Yes, this is the year they will realize revenue from BeIA licensees. JLG said that in the interview with him on this very website.

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