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BeOS Projects Update

by @ 11:34 am on 10/21/2002. Filed under Bits N' Pieces

Ok.. so this is to be a roundup of all the crazy happenings in the various BeOS Replacement projects floating around. Here goes. YellowTab has updated their page to a new, steadily growing system talking about Zeta, their new upcoming release. Zeta looks like BeOS R6 and includes some new stuff and lots of bundled apps. I will reserve judgement until I have a chance to properly review it.

Meanwhile, BeUnited is reporting that Leonardo OS is “regrouping”.. whatever that means. BeUnited also hosted a “historic meeting of the Open Standards group” recently. Whether the “Historic” portion is indicitive of some incredible forsight or simply ok due to a technicality remains to be seen.

BlueEyedOS has apparently finished the first skeleton of their app_server, as you can see here. They claim it is “in cvs” but as they are a non-open project, you will just have to take their word for it.

Last, but not least, OpenBeOS has been busy, releasing print server beta updates, registrar milestone 2, a few newsletters, a pretty far along media kit, and a bunch of updates on the app_server, including a screenshot of it rendering a font for the first time (publically presumably).

Phew. Not a bad round up for the past few weeks. Now to go dig through the rest of the incoming news folder, and see what else I can slam up here today. 🙂

Update: Forgot to mention this.. on the somewhat sketchy side, BeOS 5 PE MAX Edition has been released. Here is a blurb:

BeOS 5 PE Max Edition is a distribution made using the free version of BeOS 5 (called Personal Edition) with a number of drivers, add-ons, and software. It includes the new development tools from the OpenBeOS team Web site, but you will also be able to select the old tools. It only contains freeware and shareware demos. All the code it contains is legal under the MIT, GPL, or LGPL licenses.
And yes its Athlon XP patched.

Dunno about the legality of the whole thing personally, but check out for more information.

9 Responses to “BeOS Projects Update”

  1. Anonymous says:



    I just have come back from BeGeistert and it was really cool. Bernd (YellowTab) and Ithamar demoed a beta of Zeta and some of the new features are:

    – Locale support: you can on the fly (live!) change to a different language. In the code, it’s all done in one line of code and one include. That’s really cool.
    – Zeta can save all your windows and applications between boots
    – It has a far more complete installer with an extensive way of selecting additional apps.
    – a lot of new drivers
    – an all new mediaplayer with support of over 30 codecs, including DivX 5. Jumping back and forth in a movie seemed to be very smooth.
    – and a lot of more things

    Off course, all the OpenBeOS guys were there: Marcus O., Axel, Ingo, Thierry, Philippe, Francois.

    Also, Rudolf Cornelissen (Matrox driver), Mark Hellegers (Themis), Thomas Kuerschel (Radeon, IDE replacement), Frans van Nispen (SampleStudio, Refraction) joined the club. Rudolf and Thomas shared a lot of ideas about driver development, so that will be cool. Thomas is a god in reverse engineering.

    Chris Simmons of BeOSjournal was there doing interviews for BeOSradio, and generally cheering up the crowd.

    Also, I had a long talk to Thierry Delhaise, and all I can say is that I’m very optimistic about the PCI / USB / FireWire support in OpenBeOS over the next few months.

    Stephan Assmus gave a very nice demo of eXposer and Coldcut.

    Oh yeah, there were also two french guys with MorphOS, with a complete new custom PPC motherboard. MorphOS is built on Amiga foundations and it boots in an incredible 2 seconds (you read that right!). I don’t know much about it further.

    Let’s not forget Charlie Clark and Scholly, who made it all possible!

    All I can say is that it was a very nice BeGeistert, with a much larger turnup than last time (a lot of Germans, loads of French and a good collection of Dutchies, one Italian guy and one Polish guy), and I’m looking forward to the next one!

  2. Francis says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 10/21/2002 2:53:19 PM

    Re: Zeta


    Yow! By the way, did you find out the answer to this milliondollar question: does it install on P4’s and Athlon’s without fuss?

  3. Francis says:

    In Response To Technix @ 10/22/2002 10:45:21 AM

    Re: Zeta

    Wow – this sounds really cool. It kind of makes me wonder why they were keeping essential details like this quiet up to now – it would seem to me that compatibility with new hardware would be the number one thing you’d want to reassure customers about. But of course it took a while for them to get their website up to speed, and they probably don’t want correspondence on a “work in progress”. It’s understandable they want a finished, tested product to advertise.

    Another thing: if a few BeOS apps won’t run on it, there won’t also be issues accessing BeOS volumes created with 5.0 PE? (I read that in Dano, you could get crashes when trying to move files to and from a volume created with 5 PE – I don’t remember the specifics about this) What about OpenTracker? Will there have to be a seperate build of Tracker maintained?

    I wonder what exactly yellowtab can say about what they had access to (assuming it’s not just a repackaged and enhanced PE – but it still sounds really worth the money.) I’m sure a lot of BeOS users are dying to know the technical details of what’s they’re doing.

    Looking forward to that interview!

  4. Technix says:

    In Response To Francis @ 10/21/2002 7:21:06 PM

    Re: Zeta

    Yes, it installs fine on both types of systems.

    I personally got to run the installer and Zeta CD on an athlon xp system.

    Works like a champ.

    Just to let everyone know.. TBJ is down, but is working on getting back online.. It’s an apache issue, due to last month’s bandwidth problems.

    We will be back online shortly.

  5. Francis says:

    In Response To Technix @ 10/22/2002 04:18:21 AM

    Re: Zeta

    Thanks for the update on Zeta and BeOSJournal. I was all set to get the scoop on BeGeisert from BeOSJournal, so the “Out of Bandwidth” error got me worried!

    Do you happen to know if Yellowtab will be making any further announcements soon? I suppose what a lot of people would like to (eventually) know is: what “is” Zeta – does it actually contain previously unreleased Be,Inc. code? Is it really the equivalent of “R6”? (whatever that means – I assume it’s not Dano, and it doesn’ contain things like the new window decors, BONE, Hardware OGL, etc.)(for example, Eugenia mentioned that Be had a fix for the kernal bug that prevented P4’s from booting, but it was never released.)

    It contains a “fixed” media kit? Any changes to the app server? Is it really true that not all programs will run on it and will have to be recompiled?

  6. Technix says:

    In Response To Francis @ 10/22/2002 07:37:03 AM

    Re: Zeta

    95% of R5 programs will run on it.

    There is a completely new media player that comes with it, with over 30 codecs supported, and plans for upwards of 100

    – Latest Real Player
    – ALL Microsoft codecs.
    – DivX 5

    I’m not sure on networking issues, but I suspect it’s some form of BONE.

    Zeta includes all the windows decors you would fine in Dano, but there are already plans to move beyond that, to full UI customizations.

    More details will be released on their website soon, as well as The BeOSJournal doing a full review.

  7. Anonymous says:

    In Response To Francis @ 10/22/2002 12:38:20 AM

    Re: Zeta

    Nope open tracker runs fine on Dano

  8. Anonymous says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 10/21/2002 2:53:19 PM

    Re: Zeta

    holy goodnews batman! Can’t wait for Zeta now! 🙂

  9. Anonymous says:


    I wonder how Leonardo’s regrouping is coming along..

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