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3ivx update - 10 times faster?

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Posted by:Ryan on Tuesday, 14 Aug, 2001 @ 5:57 PM
 
Codec

Allow me to quote directly from an email that just appeared in my “News Submissions” folder:

For those of you still interested in BeOS multimedia, 3ivx just released the latest (3.5) version of their MPEG-4 video codec. According to the docs, it now encodes about 10 TIMES faster than previous version! Download here: http://www.3ivx.com/download/beos.html

Clear, Simple, to the point, and imho, newsworthy. Go download it and let them know their BeOS support is appreciated. :)



20 Responses to “3ivx update - 10 times faster?”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    what about the playback speed (the decoder)??

    Aliensoldier

  2. Beryllium Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 6:42:05 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    And, if the decoder is that improved … is there any posibility of the 3ivX decoder helping to improve BeOS playback of DivX files? My lowly 300A Celeron with 64MB of RAM can’t keep up :(

  3. rppp01 Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 6:42:05 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    This is from the news page at the site:

    “3ivx Delta 3.5 for BeOS has been released. The decoder is available for both x68 and PPC computers. Go straight to the download page.”

    By the way, what can I watch with this decoder?
    [Edited at 20:21 Aug 14 2001 by rppp01]

  4. rain Says:

    In Response To rppp01 @ 08/14/2001 8:20:10 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    3ivx encoded movies! ;)

    well, 3ivx isn’t commonly used yet (I don’t know if it will ever be though). However, you can create your own 3ivX movies by either encoding movies with MediaConverter or ripping DVD’s (and encode them in an OS with Mpeg2 support)

  5. Anonymous Says:

    pStudio and 3iVX encoder

    I can’t get personalStudio 1.5 to “see” and use the 3iVX encoder. :(
    I wonder if it actually collides with my DivX encoder I have there.

    Eugenia

  6. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 9:17:29 PM

    Re: pStudio and 3iVX encoder

    Hi Eugenia.

    what is wrong with the Benews site please

    Norton

  7. rain Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 9:17:29 PM

    Re: pStudio and 3iVX encoder

    Yeah, same here. Mediaconverter can see it fine, but not personalStudio. Strange. Unless pS is using some non-standard way of detecting codecs? (like hardcoded :) ) In fact, it can’t see my DivX codec either.
    [Edited at 23:27 Aug 14 2001 by rain]

  8. rain Says:

    Am I missing something here?

    OK, I tried converting some old MPEG1 files I have on my HDD, and the result I got was very poor. OK, I thought, bad source bad result. I installed the codec in windows to convert the seinfeld show from last nigth, now the source was in high quality MJPEG. Guess what? It still sucked! I would rather choose to convert it to MPEG-1. I tried converting the same clip to DivX format at a _lower_ bitrate, and I ended up with a result that was twice as good as the 3ivX.

    They will have to work pretty hard on that codec to get my attention. I had high hopes for 3ivX. Now I will have my eyes on the OpenDivX project instead. Even if it has it’s problems, it’s more promising than 3ivX at this point.

    Or did I do something completely wrong?
    [Edited at 1:08 Aug 15 2001 by rain]

  9. bullitB Says:

    In Response To rain @ 08/15/2001 00:57:26 AM

    Yeah…there’s a trick

    When transcoding 3ivx movies from lossy-compressed source video, like from a TV or an already compressed MPEG files, or even MJPEG (yes, MJPEG is lossy), you need to use its artifact reduction, or it will look TERRIBLE. This is because without artifact reduction, 3ivx doesn’t use any post-processing like “DivX” codecs do.

    The catch? In order to encode with artifact reduction, you need to order 3ivx Personal Edition, which costs $10. Quite frankly, I think this is quite a deal, because with AR, 3ivx can make some pretty nice looking movies.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    Well..

    I for one am very impressed. 3ivx was nice the first time around except for encode time, now I’m interested in getting the personal version. Anyone know if you get any updates though? $10 isn’t bad, but for an alpha.. -NeoWolf

  11. Eugenia Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 11:05:00 PM

    Re: BeNews problem

    I think, we just have the same hardware problem again. Sometimes the motherboard (or the power supply?) gets stuck, and even if you try to reset it or turn it on again, the machine does not power up.

  12. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/15/2001 03:18:09 AM

    Re: Well..

    Yes, you will get updates for your $10. Have a read of the web site for more details.

    Cheers
    David
    3ivx BeOS developer

  13. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To rain @ 08/15/2001 00:57:26 AM

    Re: Am I missing something here?

    A few details would be nice.

    What quality setting did you use?
    What is your definition of poor? File size? Output quality?

    I get very good results from all except 1 of my mpeg files. I can usually compress them to 1/2 the size without noticeable loss in quality.

    Using Artifact reduction, I can usually compress even more.

    Of course best results will ALWAYS be obtained when compressing from raw source files or at least from non-lossy compressed files.

    Cheers
    David
    3ivx BeOS developer

  14. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To rain @ 08/14/2001 11:27:29 PM

    Re: pStudio and 3iVX encoder

    I think if you remove the mpeg decoder that was released on BeBits a little while ago and reboot (or maybe just restart media services) then both 3ivx and divx will appear.

    PStudio has problems playing 3ivx files though.

    I think the problem is PStudio was written to the older media system and the API that both 3ivx and Divx use are beta API’s.

    Cheers
    David

    3ivx BeOS developer

  15. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/14/2001 6:42:05 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Playback speed is improved slightly unless the encode was done using Artifact reduction. In that case you will see a fairly hefty performance hit (But a nicer output at low bitrates).

    The code for artifact reduction is unoptimised. Indeed there is currently no assembly in the entire encoder/decoder. Once the basics are there you will see a dramatic improvement in speed once we add in SSE2 and Alitivec. (At least I hope we will see this for BeOS as I am not sure if the GCC compiler we have can output SSE2)

    Cheers
    David
    3ivx BeOS developer

  16. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Beryllium @ 08/14/2001 8:16:58 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    3ivx is not Divx. 3ivx will not help you watch Divx movies.

    Cheers
    David
    3ivx BeOS developer

  17. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/15/2001 03:51:59 AM

    Re: Well..

    Well you just got another $10, I hope you guys get enough support to go strong, I’m impressed enough with the codec even without artifact reduction; I can’t wait to see the difference. -NeoWolf

  18. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To bullitB @ 08/15/2001 01:14:07 AM

    Re: Yeah…there’s a trick

    Heh, so basically you need to pay $10 for something that performs worse than the free no-cost DivX? No thanks…Or maybe that’s the way things work in Be land.

  19. Anonymous Says:

    10x faster, BUT:

    Where does it put BeOS in comparison to other platforms?!

  20. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 08/19/2001 08:34:36 AM

    Re: 10x faster, BUT:

    It should put it on par with the windows and linux versions give or take the compiler differences.

    It’s the same code so I don’t expect much difference.

    Cheers
    David
    3ivx BeOS developer

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