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BeOS losing the MediaOS edge?

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Posted by:Deej on Friday, 20 Jul, 2001 @ 12:34 AM
 
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So it looks as though time is passing, and other OSes are beginning to catch up with our beloved OS in areas that we were so many light years ahead of not so long ago…

Slashdot has a story up about DeMuDi, Debian Music Distribution, which “is the first distribution of GNU/Linux whose sole purpose is to create a stable OS for Multimedia.” With the use of specific hardware, combined with realtime kernel patches, Linux “can achieve hardware level latencies”. The distro includes multitrack hard disk recording software, physical modelling and virtual analog synthesizers, beatboxes, midi sequencers, and other audio related applications.

With such an organized effort to bring Linux in the “BeOS arena” of low latency multimedia, BeOS is endangered with pro audio (if BeOS ever could have held such a title). Too Little, too late? I think not - yet. But we do need to get things organized, here and now.



48 Responses to “BeOS losing the MediaOS edge?”

  1. rppp01 Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 10:49:44 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    Not thinking outside the box? Why do many people use linux? That used to be ‘outside the box’ of the OS world. Now, every IT guy I run across is a linux ‘guru’. People using other OS’s even with their limited functionality would be considered ‘outside the box’. Especially if they are still developing on that OS.

    God, at version 5.0, RedHat sucked big time. I’ll grant that it was still in active development but it was not a desktop or server OS by any means. I mean it was OK for light loads, but it couldn’t handle what it can today.

    Not thinking outside of the box. That’s funny. Now, if we were on a windows message board…….

  2. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    This story generated such fear and concern that I barely can stay awake long enough to post…

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Media?

    Linux has a ways to go before it comes into the Media OS light. No Color Correction, No Font Management or complete Font Support for that matter, No CMYK Process handling for apps, No Digital Performer or equivalent, etc.

    Linux is kicking butt as a server now. This will eventually help cultivate the desktop brethren. It is far from dead on the desktop but definitely needs to advance the GUI, become *way* easier to use, and develop core media features before it will ever replace BeOS.

    Of course there will be those that simply won’t convert as we found the OS bliss already =)

    xPy

  4. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 02:08:36 AM

    Re: Media?

    Uh Linux has font management, x4 support true type fonts and qt libs do anti aliasing on them so just about any font looks good. Yes there is no color correction, there isnt any on windows either, mac is the only desktop I know that supports full color correction. Yes there is no CMKY support in apps like Gimp, are there in BeOS? The robustness of the desktop gui has advanced much since the old days of early gnome and kde 1.x. Look at kde 2.2beta screenshots. Linux is so many things to so many people that it will take longer to develop in each specialized area desktop, embeded, server etc but it’s ok because while BeOS is basically stagnant as far as kernel development is concerned I know Linux will continue on, because the core of the OS is open. Yes I know the beos kernel is so tangled in IP and patents it will never be free eventually I think the light will peak on Linux when projects like DeMuDi are more and more successful. OS bliss must be stock at around 40 cents a share (delisting territory) and a handful of users selling commodity apps that other communitys give away for free. My advice BeRealistic, BeOS will slowly dissapear when new hardware is unsupported drivers dont get written, what are you going to do then?

  5. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 02:08:36 AM

    Yes .. Media

    “Linux has a ways to go before it comes into the Media OS light.” - I completely agree with you, but while Linux is growing on a daily basis, the BeOS doesn’t.

    “No Color Correction” - Who cares about this, if you are serious about colour correction Be will not even feature as an OS of choice, the Mac wins here hands down.

    “No Font Management” - Use KDE2.2beta XFree86 4 and above

    “become *way* easier to use” - Buy a Mac. If you can’t use KDE, you are braindead.

    “simply won’t convert” - Reality check, if the BeOS is bliss that means that you are not using it for any real work. The BeOS is a toy, nothing more.

    I have used the BeOS and I luuuuuuuv the GUI, but I constantly had to reboot into another OS to do any real work.

    The linux desktop has not begin to kick yet, how the hell can it be dead? Those comments were spread by MS-lovers like ZDNet. Who gives a shit what ZDNet has to say about Linux, certainly not me.

    BeOS GUI AtheOS and Linux internals worldwide-development open-source OS AccelereatedX GGI graphics server = My killer OS

  6. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 05:32:41 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    Reality check, if the BeOS is bliss that means that you are not using it for any real work.
    The BeOS is a toy, nothing more.

    So you’re basically saying you’re not only a troll, but a closed-minded one.

  7. cedricd Says:

    [No Subject]

    without even mentionning those real-time patches that would have shifted the Linux latency to negative territory (!) if you believe and add up all the hype spouted in Be forums, (any chance they’re incorporated one day in the official source tree BTW?)

    With the use of specific hardware

    Errhhmm. What does this mean exactly, it’s only compatible with one soundcard (which would suck), or those “real time patches” require some custom hardware (which would be laughable, Windows is the only other OS that requires hardware in order to even remotely touch BeXX latencies) ?

  8. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To cedricd @ 07/20/2001 07:26:33 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    No, as I said, Mac and Linux are more realistic options, I think youre the close minded one, if you can use BeOS and like it, then you’re obviously not thinking outside the box. There is so much more available in other OSes that you Be idiots fail to check out and be open minded about.

  9. arougthopher Says:

    Ease of use!?!

    Yes, linux may have some powerful tools.
    Yes, linux may be getting into the media os arena
    But, BeOS is very easy to use. Most “media” people are not developers. I’m sure they would not enjoy using linux as much as BeOS (this is not flame bait, just my opinion, and I don’t care about yours) Linux will always be a geek os. BeOS, is somewhat of a geek os, but non geeks can also use it, very easily. This is were the advantage lies, and will always lie. I don’t care if linux is becoming easier to use. I don’t think there will ever be a day where you won’t have to modify a text file to get the option you want within linux.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 03:37:58 AM

    Re: Media?

    > Yes there is no CMKY support in apps like Gimp, are there in BeOS?

    Why the hell else would that have been mentioned?!?!?!?

  11. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 05:32:41 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    Heh, you might as well go ahead and condemn VxWorks, QNX 6, QNX4, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Plan9, Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX, and Tru-64 and especially AtheOS because they “can’t get real work done” either.

  12. chrish Says:

    In Response To rppp01 @ 07/20/2001 12:10:32 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    You shouldn’t rant like that and go on about old Linux distributions. Unlike the static BeOS world, Linux has seen major updates in the past year or so.

    RHAT is up to what, 7.1 now?

    First Linux distro I tried was Slackware, on about a million floppy disks; naturally, it was awful. But this was in the Windows 3.11 timeframe… things have moved on since then.

    - chrish

  13. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 03:37:58 AM

    Re: Media?

    By then my Machine will be so far obsolete that we’ll have a dozen other OS choices…maybe by then Linux will have matured to the point *where I don’t loose functionality* at that point I’d be willing to get a new machine with Linux. But I most likely think MacOS X will be the best successor for me.

    Just to clue you in…OS Bliss is satisfaction with ones machine in it’s current state. This has no resemblance to stock price, or the rest of the world for that matter due to the simple fact; the rest of the world doesn’t use my machine or perform the same tasks on it.

    Trying to negate my decision as being foolish based upon that sort of FUD isn’t going to win you any simpathy when you realize that a Linux desktop is in much of a minority as BeOS/OS2/Amiga. Yes there are way more Linux machines, most servers. The desktop Linux is still under development. Until it proves itself as viable and it has a consistent UI, I’m sticking with BeOS.

    Font managment goes beyond antialiased type…does it support Post Script fonts? Can I manage Font sets? Manage duplicate fonts? This is stuff I deal with day to day in visual communication that I can do in BeOS. I may be uninformed about the font capabilities in KDE as most of my experience lies within GNOME.

    xPy

  14. Anonymous Says:

    Linux for Media Creation? You’re Joking

    Sure, you can make some audio programs for Linux and make some high speed drivers, but its so damn hard to figure out how to do anything in Linux that you would be done doing whatever it is that you wanted to do in the BeOS before you even figured out how to do what you wanted to do in Linux. I’m sick of all of this Linux hype. The only thing Linux is good for is entertaining nerds that have absolutely no lives and way too much free time on their hands. Computers should be easy to use and should help you do things quicker. Linux is hard to use and you can get things done quicker if you use BeOS, MacOS or Windows.

  15. Deej Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 3:18:17 PM

    Re: Linux for Media Creation? You’re Joking

    My point is made by adding one word to your last sentence, and deleting some…

    If you _could_ use BeOS. Sure there are a scattered few apps, but nothing progressing nearly as fast as on any other platform. BeOS _will_ lose any advantage it once had in a not to long off time. Something must happen to get BeOS and BeOS audio moving again.

  16. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Deej @ 07/20/2001 4:00:20 PM

    Re: Linux for Media Creation? You’re Joking

    While it’s true that the edge is slimming down, the boat isn’t sunk yet. There are a few saving graces for us - XRS comes to mind, along with OhmBoyZ - so we ain’t gone yet. With the right set of applications, there’s still a lot that can be done. We may not have 20 choices of workstation applications, but really - only 1 good one will do, and failing that even a set of the right apps that cover all the necessary bases will suffice for many of us.

    As for Linux, multimedia has never been a high priority in the Linux crowd. I discovered this shortly before I discovered BeOS. That’s why there isn’t much to choose from under Linux, although that too is changing. Eventually, there will be some great choices for Linux audio software. However, many of those choices are developing slowly (at least for the Linux world).

    Personally, I believe that BeOS can benefit from the same open development model, but that’s up to the developers to make it so.

    It’s also true that we need something from Be Inc. at some point to keep current, but I do think we will see this at some point - as long as Be believes that someone other than embedded device builders still give a shit about it. One way or the other, I can still make music on my lowly dual Celeron box - as long as I’m running BeOS.

    franknputer (I really need to create an account…)
    :^)

  17. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 3:18:17 PM

    if that were true

    then the major movie studios (DreamWOrks being one of them) would not be starting to switch now to linux for multimedia purposes (animation, speacial effects, etc), in fact, linux is becoming a major competitor in the multimedia realm, and has recently started to eat up both microsoft’s and apple’s marketshare in that area in the past few years

    if BeOS is ever to penetrate the multimedia field like linux is, it should at least have more current updates, and to be compatible with more hardware along with more available applications, until then, linux will probably end up having most of the multimedia marketshare in a few years time

  18. rain Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 05:32:41 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    “Buy a Mac. If you can’t use KDE, you are braindead. ”

    Easy to use is not the same as easy to understand. I find that linux always gets in the way. The interface is simply terrible.

  19. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    Linux will never meet the performance capable through BeOS. Linux is based on a 30 year old architecture that was developed in the days when ‘multimedia’ was about as plausible as superluminal travel is today. While hardware patches will enable Linux to close the gap, it isn’t enough. In using Redhat 5.1, I found that directly drawing to the video memory could only be accomplished through setting the permissions of certain X libraries to write for all users; a huge security flaw. Even if this has been worked around, it is still a workaround and will never match an OS specifically designed for the functionality.

    With that said, it may be possible to develop Linux to a point where the rising hardware power will compensate for the lacking software and make it a moot point. The ease of use will still be a big issue, of course, but performance may not.

  20. markh Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 10:49:44 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    If you can’t use BeOS for work related stuff, doesn’t mean it’s a toy. I can do work with it very well and so can a lot of others. Don’t go generalizing an OS. It makes you look like an idiot.

  21. markh Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 01:42:33 AM

    Re: if that were true

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Linux was eating into Irix’s share of the (multimedia) market. Sgi workstations used to be in every respectable studio and are now being replaced by Linux workstations.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    Men In White

    ZZZzzzz. Somebody bragged on /. about how BeOS could kick Linux’s @ss at highend multimedia.

    Now, a couple Linux nerds with a website and too much time on their hands start a “new project”.

    WHoop-de-freaking-do. “Linux” can beat ANY OS at ANY task*.

    * under near labratory condidtions.

    Keep in mind:
    SPECIAL LINUX PROJECT “A” is set up to be “MOST SECURE OS” and

    SPECIAL LINUX PROJECT “B” is setup to be the “EASIEST TO USE OS” and

    SPECIAL LINUX PROCECT “C” is setup to be “THE MEDIA OS”

    this crap happens all the time, and these projects merely provide a few Linux zealots with “bragging rights”.

    But their is NO LINUX that is

    Better at Multimedia than BeOS AND easier to use AND as stable AND as fast AND as non-bloated.

    UNTIL all Linux’s UNITE and have ONE standard for all things there will be different distros better at certain things over others. This creates a marketing nightmare, incompatable standards among distros with halfass workarounds, and developer headaches. But if all Linuxs DO become ONE - - Linux will lose its greatest advantage: Versatility.

  23. Deej Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 2:46:47 PM

    Re: Men In White

    Hehe, I’d like to see Project B. :P

  24. Anonymous Says:

    Superiuor but no support

    Although BeOS is the best OS for multimedia it has the problem of little support of third party software developers. Linux is a server orientated OS, but getting more user friendly programmes and more attention all the time. Also hardware support is better than under BeOS.
    Lack of interest is threatening to erode the BeOS base. At the moment I don’t see the future for BeOS it should have. If no boost is going to happen as with Mac OS (which was aspected to vanish until recently), I’m afraid BeOS will die.

  25. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To markh @ 07/21/2001 11:14:14 AM

    Re: if that were true

    You’re absolutely correct. NEVER have I heard of a major motion picture being remastered with a Macintosh. I’m sure it’s been done, but I’ve found Amiga and SGI to be the only competetors in that market until recently.

  26. stephenb Says:

    [No Subject]

    So basically, BeOS has a much better base for multimedia, but Linux is catching up mostly because it’s a media darling flavour-o’-the-month and has more people working on it.

    Gee, what does THAT sound like a microcosm of?

  27. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    Well, with a name like that…. I dunno. Too geeky. Noone will get the joke.

  28. Anonymous Says:

    oh gee….

    Please wake me when Linux does ANYTHING right in a desktop environment…

  29. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 04:30:55 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    There is no 30 year old code in Linux…

  30. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 2:46:47 PM

    Re: Men In White

    Linux is just as uneasy to use as BeOS as both is
    kernels, it’s just different interfaces that runs on top.

  31. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/23/2001 07:22:18 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    correct :-) There’s a 20 years difference between the age of the design and the age of the code that impelments it… Linux is a circa-1990 project, which makes it all the more shameful that they just did a copycat of Unix instead of something fresh; a command-line philosophy Os, instead of something innovative..

    Oh well, anyway. It’s not like there was no alternative to Linux *g*

  32. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/23/2001 07:25:23 AM

    Re: Men In White

    both are kernels

    When I install BeOS I don’t install just kernel_joe or whatever.. maybe we don’t live in the same reality distorsion fields :-)

    And it’s not like “I install BeOS” was a shorthand for something else like “I install Linux” is a shorthand for “I install Debian/Redhat/Mandrake/SuSe/TurboL” ..etc, BeOS is BeOS is BeOS.

  33. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 04:30:55 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    In using Redhat 5.1
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Uhm, that was 3 years ago? :)

    I found that directly drawing to the video memory could only be accomplished through setting the permissions of certain X libraries to write for all users; a huge security flaw.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I think you are the biggest security flaw on your system. Your “solution” doesn’t make sense at all. Besides, the REAL security flaw would be if everyone logged in on your system could read and write directly to your video RAM. Ever think about that?

    Even if this has been worked around, it is still a workaround and will never match an OS specifically designed for the functionality.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-
    There’s nothing to work around. Directly writing to video RAM is a “privileged” operation in a multi-user system (Linux). If you don’t understand why that’s the case, well.. then you should be using Windows, no?!

    And even if you are the only one to ever log in on your own system protecting subsystems like this (your video RAM) makes sense.

  34. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/22/2001 10:15:48 PM

    Re: oh gee….

    Wake up! Time to check out Mandrake 8.0 and KDE 2.2!!

  35. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/23/2001 10:15:45 AM

    i’ve read SuSE 7.2 is pretty good as well

    i plan on installing it on my next (and this time windows free) machine

    i’d try BeOS, but the state of it’s development right now…

  36. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To cedricd @ 07/23/2001 08:15:37 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    I don’t understand why everybody seems to confuse
    the core of the operating system with the interface
    with which you interact with the system…
    There;s a commandline in BeOS also, which I tend to
    use more than the Tracker when I run BeOS.

  37. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/23/2001 10:14:31 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Or using BeOS which also lacks all what security is
    concerned.

  38. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/24/2001 05:22:38 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    There;s a commandline in BeOS also

    and there’s one in Windows, in MacOSX, DOS is a command-line driven… operating software, there’s one in AmigaOS, Atari.. Having a terminal application is obviously alien to my original point, which is why it does not appear in the post; it has nothing to do with it; being an OS with a 20 years old philosophy has everything to do with it.

    And I take back the work “design” for the sake of accuracy, since of course the design (aka algorithms) were done after 1990 obviouslly, it’s the design-as-in-overall-look’n'feel I thought of;

    So it’s a recent OS on a recent design of a 1969′ vintage philosophy, happy now ? :-)

  39. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To cedricd @ 07/20/2001 07:30:47 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Actually, you should learn about the low latency patches. On kernel 2.4, they enable sub 2ms latencies even on crappy soundcards. The 0.8 ms quoted latencies are achieved on a merge PIII-500. Even on slower computers, Linux’s latencies are significantly lower than BeOS’s. I don’t like the fact, but it doesn’t make it any less true…

  40. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/21/2001 04:30:55 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Try writing an OS then come back and laugh at your silly comment. There is *no* 30 year old tech in the Linux kernel that shouldn’t be there. The old pieces that *are* there (for example page aging in the VM) are there because those are the best algorithms that have been found to date. Right now, the Linux kernel is more advanced than the BeOS one in almost every respect. Latencies (with the low latency patches) are less than a third that of BeOS. And with the work on 2.5, that figure will drop farther. The VM is significantly more advanced, for example it has a dynamic filesystem cache that changes in size based on usage. It incoporates aspects of the killer FreeBSD VM, whose algorithms (which are about 3 years old, BTW) are some of the best around. Its networking has features (IPv6) that even BONE can’t touch. No, the 30 year legacy of UNIX, upon which Linux’s design is based, does nothing more than to give a stable foundation to Linux.

    If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants.
    — Isaac Newton

  41. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To stephenb @ 07/22/2001 01:11:18 AM

    Re: [No Subject]

    The media has nothing to do with it. CNET doesn’t contribute to Linux’s code. The plain fact is that its OSS nature allows the community to work on the code. BeOS’s closed nature bars that. The end result is that Linux is improving while BeOS isn’t.

  42. gmlongo Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/25/2001 2:49:38 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    latencies don’t mean anything to me. all that matters is that it that Linux with KDE or GNOME is unbelievably slow.

    -G

  43. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/23/2001 10:15:45 AM

    Re: oh gee….

    Oh yeah! I had tried them, nice! Really KDE 2 is a piece of art and Linux is really progressing, but…
    Everything worked fine until I try to install 3D app xx that required Mesa x.xx that required to be compiled and the compiler complains about a missing xxx library that is missing in the distro apparently… Then I tried to install graphic app xxx which is very promissing and again it ask about openGL… same nightmare with mesa…and a bunch of related/unrelated similar/dissimilar problems.
    oh, well, I’ll die with BeOS. But linux will NEVER be a mainstream general purpose desktop OS, forget it.
    You just have to be an engineer to use it.

    Moldava

  44. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/24/2001 4:00:35 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Are these two distinct options or not? I guess media-savvy people are eager to “patch their hardware” then “patch their software” then wait for a port of cakewalk pro..

    And of course, the fact that those patches aren’t merged into the main source tree are because of Linus’ shot-sightedness, not because they are kludges that make everything else in teh kernel sluggish?

    Not to mention we still have to read an actual accurate technical comment as to where those figures come from (are these internal or external altencies? BeOS achives 100micros. internal). Wake me up when one does..

  45. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/25/2001 10:30:13 PM

    Re: oh gee….

    That’s because Mandrake and many other distros are using package dependencies and I can tell you is Hell!
    My solution was a change to slackware, wich depends on files rather than packages. I checked on BeOs too, but I found the supply of software too sparing. I’m kind of feeling sorry about it because once you get used to its way of organizing files (Hey what’s wrong with the standard unix/linux way with a /, /home, /dev, /usr? I’d never know exactly where those files i just installed would go!) it’s really nice. Above all it keeps it’s footprint small. Linux tends to grow if you want to “compile it your self”.

    All in all I fear for the worst and hope for the best, but I think that Beos is dead unless some decent apps could be ported.

  46. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 02:08:36 AM

    Re: Media?

    ‘Linux is kicking butt as a server’ - That’s right, but often, Linux does not do what you want it to do, even as a server. But you’re right then - Linux as a DesktopOS is definetly horrible & slowww. Mandrake 8.0 Pro will be the last Edition that I bought - until something more suitable will come, until the end of 2002…
    Perhaps AtheOS might be the Server Choice of our BeOS - Community until then..?
    Hope that Be will come to action until then - wether they’re independent or bought…May a nice Win-Wrapper will be there until then - who knows…

  47. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/20/2001 05:32:41 AM

    Re: Yes .. Media

    “…but while Linux is growing on a daily basis, the BeOS doesn’t” - If you look at somewhat serious statistics, the only growpoint of Linux is at the Servers - as a Desktop ist’s S-L-O-W-W and far away to be told easy to use…
    “Mac Wins Handsdown (Color Correction)”. Forget about that. Within MacOS that might be true. Example : We spit out a Mousepad-template in PDF-Format (w/Adobe Illustrator on W2YK) to a Graficdesign - company who works with MacDOSes - they couldn’t get the stuff managed until we found out that we had to keep fonts as vetor graphics - otherwise - you see even within a PDF Format, a Mac will be not able to render Fonts…Not very compatible & easy to use, too.
    “The BeOS is a toy, nothing more” - This toy works so intuitive and effective - you never guess.
    Take Gobe, ArtPaint (so simple to retouche Digital Imagesof your Digicam), Massive Picture Converter for Webdesign, Video Recorder, etc,etc,..all that tiny Apps are forming a nice, easy to use & fast Mosaic. What else do you need…?
    A full featured is IDE included.
    A Powerful Mailer.
    A Powerful Soundrecorder (like the only-up-to-60second Soundrecorder on Windows;-) ?).
    Easy & fast Graphic Retouche Tools
    Gimme a good Browser w/full Java/JScript support, OpenGL and that’s allright for me…
    Think about the nightmare Windows 9x 3 years before (well, now it’s like this for me) - the sleepless nights of configuring my SuSE Linux 6.1 (Nowerdays, Mandrake 8.0 is my choice - but even that is lightyears behind as a DesktopOS - considered to BeOS) or the regular bomb-icon Error 1&2&10&11….on a MackDOSe.
    Oh no, my OS is fast & competitive (Dual PIII 800/512MoRam) & as long friends come to me for hard Audio & Video works ’cause BeOS is so simple & forward in here, we can swallow the lacks (for now…)

  48. Anonymous Says:

    not a real solution

    linux is just a kernel. But to make it a somewhat friendly OS (which musicians demand) you have to put X window and KDE on it. But those things weren’t designed to be very responsive so that cancels some of the advantages of lower latency patches. The other problem is that it’s weird for developers to write programs specifically for one specific linux distribution. Shouldn’t every distro be low latency? That’s why I don’t think this will be successful. It’s great for linux musicians though!
    AriB

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