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Software Updates: Postmaster to be Open Sourced - Mozilla Updated

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Posted by:Ryan on Saturday, 07 Jul, 2001 @ 7:49 PM

Kenny Carruthers, author of the popular email client Postmaster, has announced that Postmaster 1.x will be open sourced, and 2.0 is officially on hold. He also announced that he is considering a Mac OS X native version of Postmaster as a future project. This is unfortunate, as Postmaster 2.0 was set to be impressive, and may never see the light of day now. However, Kenny is doing us all a big favor by releasing it to the community in source form, so we can keep it updated on our own. I would love to see an enterprising developer pick this project up and run with it.

In other open source news, Mozilla for BeOS has been released as version 0.9.2. This shows that the bezilla team has been working hard, and it is paying off. Go offer them your support. Good job guys! :)

27 Responses to “Software Updates: Postmaster to be Open Sourced - Mozilla Updated”

  1. Anonymous Says:


    Alright Kenny! Way to join the rest of the ship jumpers. I’m proud of you dude.

  2. Anonymous Says:


    I’m ammused that so many people still link to the BeZilla home page, even though it hasn’t been updated since January.

    But seriously, the Bezilla team deserves a ton of credit. They are working their ass off to give us a quality modern web browser which is something that can’t be said about all companies. *cough*Opera*cough

    And WTF is up with Opera anyways? They can afford to make an OS/2 release (based on 5.x no less!), but somehow not for BeOS? Bastards. Don’t listen to me, I’m just venting.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/07/2001 8:39:09 PM

    Re: Woohoo!

    Way to be an asshole.

    Kenny’s almost definitely done more for BeOS than your sorry ass could ever hope to in a lifetime.

  4. rppp01 Says:


    Mozilla is coming along nicely. Dialog boxes work, scroll mouse works. Text boxes still don’t work quite right in Preferences, tho. Haven’t tested java, but so far so good- awesome job guys! Thanks!

  5. Anonymous Says:

    BeIA/eVilla email work to appear in BeOS???

    Just wondering if anyone else thinks that Kenny’s work on the BeIA/eVilla email clilent might possibly show up in BeOS as an upgrade to BeMail? (or as an integration into BeMail?)

    If so, Postmaster would be pointless, as he said that the code is not that great (and would even scare some of his co-workers if they knew about the way some of it worked!!!) and the potential new email client would be much better.

  6. Anonymous Says:


    What IS the deal with the www.mozilla.org BeOS ports page not having been updated in 6 months?!?! Just lack of manpower?

  7. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/07/2001 10:46:34 PM

    Re: amusing

    OS/2 (aka eComStation) is showing more signs of life at the moment than the BeOS

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Couple Things Worthy of Note

    1) Only the 1.1 codebase is being opened. Some things from the 2.0 work may be released, but not right now.

    2) Should the OSX version of Postmaster see the light of day (Kenny is still ‘playing’ with the idea) it’ll be a free cross-grade to registered users of Postmaster for BeOS.

    Happy Be-ing

    David Aquilina
    News Editor, BeNews.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    Not all good news

    Sadly, literally hours before this was post, the two BeOS
    specfic mozilla bugs that I was tracking (6680 and 6680) both got assigned to nobody@mozilla.org.

    Do the mozilla guys know how to assign this too now Wade (how thewy are previously assigned too) as gone ?

  10. altp Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/08/2001 03:17:21 AM

    Re: Couple Things Worthy of Note

    GAWD i hope an OSX release comes to pass…

    i have on many occassions toyed witht the idea of having a Beos machine JUST for email casue postmaster kicks ass.

    and although pretty, apples Mail application blows … From my brief tests with it, its not very stable.


  11. avnerkk Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/07/2001 10:46:34 PM

    Re: amusing

    I think it’s quite clear that when (if?) Be release an upgrade, Opera will be ready with their upgrade. (JMHO)

  12. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/08/2001 00:50:54 AM

    Re: Woohoo!

    Probably, but look where it got us, no where.


  13. Anonymous Says:

    bezilla being slow

    having just recently installed bezilla onto my beos drive, i was really impressed how well bezilla worked. it’s got built-in asian-text support (which is the reason i couldn’t get myself to buy opera). compared to one of the first beta’s, bezilla has come a LONG way! kudo’s to the bezilla team!

    the only problem that i have is that it’s extremely slow on my computer. is it because of my PII300 w/128MB? don’t laugh, i’ve had this thing for a while now. but i’ve never had an app ran this slow in BeOS before… is it just cos it’s not optimized for BeOS yet?

    the win32 version works really well though.

    btw, is there any way someone outside the bezilla team can handle the web page updates? i’m sure a lot of us can’t program but can write decent html who are willing to help :)

  14. rppp01 Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 09:42:55 AM

    Re: bezilla being slow

    Don’t feel bad guys, I have a PII 266 with 192mb RAM. And yes, it is slow for me, too.

  15. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/07/2001 10:46:34 PM

    Re: amusing

    Think twice : when you say “port for OS/2 is there” - it means IBM (Big Blue) helped to realize it. So with Netscape, so with Opera & so with all-the-common-apps-u-got-for-IBM’s-baby….so who’s wondering ? They’ve got their own written Java, they’ve got DB2 - they are simply IBM !

  16. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To avnerkk @ 07/08/2001 3:12:50 PM

    Re: amusing

    It is quite clear that this is NOT the fact. And this is not my personal opinion, this is what Opera themselves say. There had been an interview about a year ago where it was stated that future BeOS versions are pending on the commercial success of the CURRENT version - now, as we all know, not many of us bought it as the previous version was for free.

    So, if you want to move Opera into releasing version 5 of their browser for BeOS, you better order a bulk of 10.000 copies first so it is at all worth for them.

    Apart from that, if you really like to see a new version of Oera being dependant on a new BeOS release, then it is even more obvious that there is no new Opera - simply because there is no new BeOS…

  17. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/08/2001 10:37:04 AM

    Re: Not all good news

    If you check the news group, the teams working on the bugs just fine with out Wade. They just need someone to update the page on mozilla.org.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 00:36:52 AM

    Re: bezilla being slow

    why don’t you e-mail the team and ask if you can help. Last I remember it was Peter Schultz that maintained the page.


    ; o )>


    By the way its slow on my PII 450 128MB RAm too. Its nice and fast under Mandrake.

  19. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 03:08:23 AM

    Re: amusing

    I do belive that be took over the opera port couse of BeIA , BeIA uses opera4.0 (I think) so assuming that they do release a beosR6 it will mostlikly have opera4 rather then Net

  20. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To rppp01 @ 07/09/2001 12:58:13 AM

    Re: bezilla being slow

    I have a 900mhz k7 and its slow for me too, actualy its not the cpu thats sslowwing it down its thoes lame skins that use the video card too much

  21. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 00:36:52 AM

    Re: bezilla being slow

    PII300 and 128 for myself as well! And a Network/Computer Consultant. Some of my lame friends have better computers than I do an I have three OS’s on my PC. It is just that BeOS has shed too much light towards me on the fact that these rediculous, forced hardware upgrades/demands because of Microsoft crap is sick. BeOS Still ROCKS on my PC and is just SO awesome. GOD Be Inc really needs to get slapped and woken up to the fact that they really are onto something over there before they die off. I am forced to be playing with Linux lately. Fun, if you enjoy doing web-research every god damn day.
    Be, Go watch the movie “Tucker”.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/08/2001 3:26:51 PM

    Re: Woohoo!

    Um, what exactly were you hoping for? It’s just an email client, albeit a good one. Kenny wrote a good app, putting a lot of time and effort into it, and for that he’s at the very least deserving of some acknowledgement.

  23. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 8:14:44 PM

    Re: amusing

    Be’s Wagner (adapted Opera 4.0 browser) isn’t fit for desktop use, as it lacks many necessary features (like file download, for one thing, or multiple windows).

  24. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 8:18:27 PM

    Re: bezilla being slow

    In truth, it’s a combination of many things, not just those lame skins.

  25. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/10/2001 11:41:31 AM

    Re: Woohoo!

    I feel bad for Kenny C. He got hired by Apple, then quit and went back to Be just in time for the company to go tits up. Apple and Mac OS X have a future and Be Inc. is in the toilet. Guess he hitched his wagon to the wrong horse.

  26. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/09/2001 03:08:23 AM

    Re: amusing

    Opera 5.x runs great on my 2 ships but they aren’ the BeOS/Titanic one.

    Linux Opera is great and I prefere it to Mozilla and with the 2.4.x kernels and Xfree 4.x server it kills the performance of Opera 5.x on Win2K.

    Now if only Linux would take Journelled Files Systems seriously and use XFS as the main one instead of Reiser.

    Oh well, they’re learning.

    Piers Bray
    Ex BeOS user and still very pissed at Be Inc for their NSA policies (Non Software Agreements) they have with themselves and everyone else supposedly partnered with them on BeOS.

    Word for Be Inc. WANKERS

  27. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 07/07/2001 10:46:34 PM

    Re: amusing

    I think it’s called “developer relations.”
    The Opera folks seem like the type to move their software to any platform that catches their fancy, and I bet IBM was very open to helping them out when they hit roadblocks on OS/2. Be, OTOH, has promised a lot in terms of better services in the future and has yet to deliver. I think Opera is just burnt on BeOS and is waiting for them to live up to their word first before putting any more effort into it. However, isn’t the BeIA browser basically Opera 5?

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