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3dfx and Maybe nVidia not to be supported in WinXP

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Posted by:Deej on Wednesday, 27 Jun, 2001 @ 4:17 PM
 
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Why is this here? Just to show that nVidia is the root of all evil, next to MS themselves. Matthias noted that, as posted on EntCity, 3dfx cards will not be supported in WindowsXP. It was clearly stated by someone from MS that nVidia will not give them the source for the 3dfx drivers. More recently, there is a rumour that MS kicked nVidia out of talks concerning XP DirectX9 because they wouldn’t sign an agreement with MS.



14 Responses to “3dfx and Maybe nVidia not to be supported in WinXP”

  1. Big Al Says:

    This seems rather odd…

    I thought NVidia was one of the primary hardware consultants/developers for the X-Box? Something sounds mighty fishy here…?

  2. Eugenia Says:

    nVidia is evil indeed

    These are bad news for the 3Dfx owners and it does show that nVidia is indeed very evil. Not only bought, dismelded, destroyed an ‘empire’ and never updated the 3Dfx drivers since they acquired 3Dfx but now they don’t want to support XP, so people would be forced to buy a new gfx card. I guess I’ll have to put in a Radeon or just, don’t buy XP.

    Eugenia


    Pround owner of a 3Dfx Voodoo5

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Agreement?

    What was this agreement? Don’t judge nVidia until you find out what (possibly) fascist agreement MS came up with.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Me and my GFX Card

    I am the proud owner of a 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000, and while I am well aware of newer cards (including 3dfx cards) far more powerful, I still just love the fact that I have this card, and would never support such a wretched evil company like nVidia until they shape up.

    I wonder if nVidia was turned off by that XP hardware thing where you have to register new computer components with Microsoft? I may have gotten the story mixed up, but I think I recall something about having to register new components with Microsoft or your computer won’t boot? I’m not sure of that whole story, though…

  5. altp Says:

    [No Subject]

    I can’t believe i’m reading some of these posts. Or the article to begin with.

    NVidia makes the best graphics cards i have had the pleasure of using to date. Who gives a rats ass if they stay closed source with their drivers/software *COUGH* BE Inc. Has *COUGH* their cards and drivers are teh fastest out there.

    Bah … i’m going back to bed.

    I’d hand in my voodoo 5 in a heart beat for a geforce2 … I miss my TNT and TNT2 cards.

    Altp.

  6. Deej Says:

    In Response To altp @ 06/27/2001 6:22:24 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    Altp

    The purpose of the article wasn’t to say whose card was better, or whine that we don’t have drivers for it, or cry because we feel Be should’ve worked to get us the drivers, or whether things should be open source or closed - it was to show that nVidia doesn’t play nice, and not just to the alt-OS’s like us, but even to giant monopolistic, capitalistic marvels like MS.

    Basically, they will force people like me with Voodoo3’s and other 3dfx cards to purchase a new card (in their minds - I’m sure they expect their cards), in order to use the next version of Windows - which we are all supposed to jump through hoops and be joyous to upgrade to (wait overnight in lines - like some people did for 95 - I think not). I will not purchase nVidia for just that reason, and I will not upgrade to WinXP for very similar reasons against Microsoft. At this point, in my opinion, MS and nVidia have shoved their weight around enough as to where I’m totally disgusted with them both. I will run something else when the day comes that BeOS no longer works for me. MacOS maybe, Linux, QNX, AtheOS - who knows, as long as it doesn’t have MS in it, nor need nVidia’s support.

  7. altp Says:

    In Response To Deej @ 06/27/2001 8:54:43 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    On the same side, they are treating all OS’s equally … they favor no one but themselves.

    Is this right, in the moral sense of the word? No not at all. Is it a good buisness model? Seems to be doing nicely for them right now.

    If they continue producing top notch cards like they have been i will be happy. When a better card appears, i will switch my alliances.

    Who cares if they play nice or not? My cable compnany in this town sucks ass, i could switch to a mini-dish and get a dsl modem instead of staying iwth my cable modem and paying 80$ a month for 40 channels and a modem … But DSL int he area switches providers every couple months, as a lot of lag time and doens’t preform as well as the cable modems … So i pay 80$ a month, to a bunch of ass wipes that don’t care at ALL about a customer, just for internet access.

    Don’t worry about the politics involved, and buy the card that is best suited for your needs. Its that simple. Its not a life or death situation, you have a job to do and you have to choose a product that will get that task done best … sometimes you have to go with the big bully, ass munching big boys.

    Its a sad fact of life.

  8. LeftTurn Says:

    In Response To altp @ 06/27/2001 9:32:02 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    It may be a sad fact of life, but at the same time that doesn’t mean you just go out an do it. Personally, I’ve never had an Nvidia card. I doubt if I ever will, in large part because of their ‘business practices’. My needs don’t require the fastest 3d rendering for games. I’ll throw my hat in the ring to the people who support more than just one system.
    What do you think would happen if Nvidia suddenly bought out ATI? With no more competition, I bet Nvidia’s stuff would slowly become crap, as they would know they’re the only game in town. Hard to say, but competition only helps us consumers.

    I still say, screw Nvidia!

    Just my .o2 cents :)

  9. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Deej @ 06/27/2001 8:54:43 PM

    Misplaced indignation

    I seem to recall 3DFX not being to pleasant to deal with when they were on top.

  10. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 06/27/2001 6:13:14 PM

    Re: Me and my GFX Card

    I’ve read a column (very short, and in a French mag so that that with some salt) saying the drivers that are not ‘certified’ in XP will trigger a big requester box with flashing warnings and stuff but work all the same.

    Another k3wl feature is that the OS can (?) on the fly switch from an unstable driver to another less-featured one but more stable in case of malfunction.

    Well, I guess when your product consumes RAM like there’s no tomorrow you raise the “recommended minimum specs” in its technical data, when it rains you get your umbrella, and when your driver model sucks so badly that your drivers are unstable you have to come up with tha kid of scheme..

  11. cedricd Says:

    In Response To altp @ 06/27/2001 9:32:02 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    sory to sound harsh, but it’s that kind of apathy that made MS what they are in the firs tplace, and contributes to make the world such a sad palce (yes I digress, stop/sue me if you can :-) . No-one said ideology was an easy path, but at the very least if you choose the path of least resistance(sp?) do not advertise it and communicate your grief to others :-)

    Or maybe you expected a kick to put you back right in your mind and reconsider things, well then considered yourself kicked littel beatle!

  12. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 06/27/2001 11:57:43 PM

    Re: Misplaced indignation

    yeah, things like helping Be by roviding specs, and being the very first 3D cards supported by BeOS ..etc

    Of course if you have relevant examples your point would get through more easily.

  13. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To cedricd @ 06/29/2001 07:09:09 AM

    Re: Misplaced indignation

    When 3DFX was on top, long before DirectX was as big as it is now, they tried locking popular game titles into using only their API–meaning you either had Voodoo acceleration or rendering was software only. As they started losing their grip on the top, they paid publishers to *not* mention other chipsets as being capable of accelerating those publisher’s games. How about the threats of lawsuit against the authors of the freely available nVidia TNT wrapper for the 3DFX API?

    If 3DFX had not lost their marketshare to nVidia it’s doubtful they would have cooperated as much as they have with alternative operating systems.

  14. Anonymous Says:

    WinXP nVidia complications

    AS a proud user od WinXP Pro let me tell you i have another beef with nVidia. If you own any other nVidia card using the GForce chip set you will not be able to run anything in OpenGL mode. You better have a good proccesor so everything can run in direct3d and not be chopy.

    other note WINXP Rocks

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