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Raycone releases InSite Constructor RC1

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Posted by:Ryan on Monday, 28 May, 2001 @ 11:29 AM
 
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Raycone has released InSite Constructor Release Candidate 1. It is available to all beta testers, as well as Registered owners of InSite Constructor. If you qualify, get over there and check it out, and make sure to give them your feedback so they can continue to improve it.



11 Responses to “Raycone releases InSite Constructor RC1”

  1. RepairmanJack Says:

    Good and the Bad

    This is good news, but I have mixed feelings about it. One one hand it’s great to have a commercial app for BeOS, especially one that focuses on WYSIWYG HTML.

    However, I was really unimpressed the lsat time I tried this particular app, it behaved oddly, didn’t format my HTML cleanly and mucked up my pages in general. I had/have better luck with BeZilla’s editor.

    However, this app may have improved greatly over the last version that I tried. Has anyone used this app lately?

  2. Big Al Says:

    In Response To RepairmanJack @ 05/28/2001 7:33:56 PM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Are you talking about InSite Designer or InSite Constructor? There’s a huge difference between the two programs - it looks like InSite Constructer is going to be of better use to those who ’speak’ html instead of those who just want a word-processing type approach to building web pages.

    It would be great to hear some feedback from people on InSite Constructor. I’d be interested in picking up Designer (which is too simplified for my needs) just to get in the Constructor beta testing. :)

  3. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Big Al @ 05/28/2001 8:44:20 PM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    I think the guy is confusing Designer with Constructor, while both are different programs. Read a preview of Constructor here:
    http://www.benews.com/story/3791

  4. RepairmanJack Says:

    In Response To Nutcase @ 05/29/2001 10:56:06 AM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Weird problem, Nutcase.
    I have been able to surf around the net w/ BeZilla and (obviously, or I wouldn’t be mentioning it) code some pages. You shouldn’t need to connect to the net to use the editor. Just open an HTML file in the browser, and choose File/Edit and it’ll kick you into the editor. The display’s a bit choppy right now, but it’s mostly functional

    (Incidently, last night I was surfing with BeZilla from my modem-less laptop using my desktop as a proxy-server (I though Networking was broken in BeZilla?). Too bad it’s just too damn slow.

    Right now, webpage-wise, I’m in maint. mode, my pages exist, they just need to be updated etc. I really don’t feel like jumping into the HTML code if I just want to change some text or HR lines, or break some paragraphs. The Bezilla editor work okay, (sure, it’s not as good as Netscape6 for windows, but it’s functional).

    Not to be mean to the Raycone guys, after all we NEED people developing commercially for BeOS, but *why* did they build another HTML text-editor? we’ve got at least three good ones right now, even if you don’t count PE, or StyledEdit. Sure all this advanced programming compatability and compliance checking sounds good, but will we be viewing it with? Net , Opera, BeZilla?

    [Edited at 12:51 May 29 2001 by RepairmanJack]

  5. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Big Al @ 05/28/2001 8:44:20 PM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Yes, he is talking about InSite Designer. It is a different program.

    InSite Constructor is a HomeSite style HTML editor. You can read a preview of InSite Constructor at http://www.benews.com/story/3791. However, this preview is based on a previous beta. Quite a lot of work has been done on it since then. Have a look at its home page at http://www.raycone.com/Constructor.

    You can get InSite Constructor Release Candidate now if you are an InSite Constructor beta tester or if you buy InSite Costructor.

    If you have any questions, you can mail me at ales@raycone.com (or better these days raycone@iol.cz). I’ll do my best to reply as soon as possible.

    Ales Nedomlel
    Raycone

  6. cedricd Says:

    In Response To RepairmanJack @ 05/28/2001 7:33:56 PM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Talking about BeZilla’s integrated editor, I’m interested in being educated by the nice begroovy
    folks :) This is a WYSIWYG web page editor, right; is this the one
    webmasters have been waiting for for so long ? (I remember even last year on
    beusertalk people were longing for a good Photoshop clone AND a good Adobe-Live clone)

    If not, why, because it lacks source editing side by side with the wysiwyg one?
    Is HTML4/CSS compliance important? Anyone heard about that kind of
    application integrating editing of both HTML and dynamic languages like PHP?
    Sounds difficult to do.. if yes speak up!

  7. RepairmanJack Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 05/29/2001 03:02:59 AM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Yup, you’re right about that.

    I did speak HTML pretty well but my pages are primarily for people to print so I moved over to WYSIWYG editors.

    That being said, from the blurb on the website it appears that Constructor surpasses (or will surpass) other text-based HTML editors.

    Sorry about my confusion.

  8. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To cedricd @ 05/29/2001 07:59:22 AM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    Nope.. this editor is a text editor, that has drop down support for tags & stuff as you type. Their WYSIWYG release (Designer) is unfortunately not very good. Constructor is a (very) glorified text editor for HTML.

    As far as webmasters using WYSIWYG, i don’t know. Everywhere I look, people want designers to have experience w/ design tools. I personally don’t get it, and use eddie or notepad to code pages.

    As far as BeZilla’s editor… i have no idea what that is. I never even got it to connect, let alone used it’s editor.

    WYSIWYG means you use it like a word processor, but it reads & writes html. No hand coding. Just drawing tables, and putting the cursor where you want it. Some WYSIWYG works like a desktop publishing software, and then uses insane levels of tables to meet the requirements. Most have relaxed since then. Most do offer text editing also, but the text often gets messed up by the gui bit. (Dreamweaver actually sells their product by saying it won’t mess up the text half)

    As far as compliance… YES. HTML. XHTML. CSS1. CSS2. XML. XSL. Any standard out there is important in an editor. But i suppose it’s only as important as the highest level browser on Be.

    I have seen a PHP IDE on Zend, but its much much more advanced then an HTML editor, cause it has to track a full coding language as well.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    Hey, Raycone!
    Your new product looks very impressive
    I have intention to write about your product on our news-site as soon as possible, buti feel lack of very important (for our readers) information - does Constructor support Charsets/Encodings? (But didn’t received answer to my mail sended to two addresses found on Constructor’s page)

    Good luck and best regards,
    Sergey “fyysik” Dolgov,
    www.beos.ru/www.benews.ru

  10. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 05/29/2001 7:06:55 PM

    Re: [No Subject]

    - sent by mail -

    Hi Sergei,

    InSite Constructor should be able to support various charsets/encodings but we have tested it only with latin letters (not with Chinese, Japanese or cyrilic letters yet). A tool for translation between different encodings is not completed yet in this version.

    If you have any other questions feel free to ask. I’ll do my best to reply as soon as possible.

    Ales Nedomlel
    Raycone

  11. cedricd Says:

    In Response To Nutcase @ 05/29/2001 10:56:06 AM

    Re: Good and the Bad

    I personally don’t get it, and use eddie or notepad to code pages.

    AFAIConcerned, you can probably trust me on this, that I’ll at least try to (if not
    succeed) make a WYSIWYG part that helps you be more productive, not be less productive.. ‘been just like
    you, using Pe to code HTML until now and the wysiwyg thing is soomething I ‘feel I need’..
    So that’s probably a good sign, when app development is driven by a need rather than the other way around :-) (see
    the market droids under Windows in some extreme cases).
    Before they get run over by a bus or something, the people supposed to ‘beta-test’ for me were very bent
    on DWeaver, so it’s indeed a big source of ideas for us wannabe killer app devs… Gotta take as much as possible from it.
    The advanced xSS stuff I don’t feel very qualified to implement as I’m more an I.Kit guy than a RFC or HTML one… we’ll see.

    To get back on topic (at last, wo!), Insite Constructor seems to have among other things
    a very neat syntax highlighting code, so as someone suggested in private,
    here’s my question: would it be possible to licence that kind of code
    from someone or err, similar type of cooperation? Saying so in from the nicest possible
    standpoint, as in “cooperation among Beers is good” and all that.. though I have yet
    to see many actual examples of such succesful collaborative work under BeOS unfortunately.

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