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Sony _does_ do OS’s

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Posted by:Deej on Thursday, 26 Apr, 2001 @ 12:01 AM
 
Petition

So Sony, after stating that a game console does not need an OS, has responded to a petition to put Linux on the PS/2. Over on Slashdot, there’s a story about how a petition signed by 6000 people got Sony to begin work on a Linux for it’s Playstation 2 game console. The Beta will be available for $200 to 1000 people (it includes some hardware to make the PS/2 more “PC-like”).

What does this mean to us? Well, I hope it means that either (a) Sony is interested in purchasing Be to possibly put BeOS on the PS/2 as well, or (b) we could petition Sony (and, I guess, Be, as Sony couldn’t do it by themselves) to try the same.

Don’t know. But it _could_ spell good things to come (trying not to start nasty rumors here, so take it at face value).



25 Responses to “Sony _does_ do OS’s”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Sony and Be

    Is Sony a major shareholder in Be. Does anyone know?

  2. oberon Says:

    Doesnt seem like BeOS will go with PS3

    This press release is an indicator only that BeOS/IA wont probably be used with upcoming releases of Playstation. If Sony was really interested in using BeOS/IA they would have ported it, not Linux. Its a pity because IMO PS is the ideal platform for BeOS.
    [Edited at 12:52 Apr 26 2001 by oberon]

  3. gabbarsingh Says:

    Sony/Linux/BeOS

    This news proves following -

    1. Major h/w vendors can support any platform.
    2. Sony has realised what M$ had decades back - developers.
    3. Co.s in direct conflict with M$ prefer Linux as a statement/politics/support/developers/image as not-money-hungry-corporate-but-innovative. IBM/Oracle/Sun are good examples too.
    4. Sony doesn’t give a shit about BeOS. Listening to 6000 petitions is a camoflage for above reasons.
    5. Addendum to above, if Sony cared about BeOS, Be Inc. would not be looking for buyers.

    Sony is cool.
    Be Inc. is clueless.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 12:27:03 AM

    Re: Sony and Be

    Sony is not a Be Inc. shareholder.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    if you can get 6000 be users to sign a petition, i’ll be surprised. that’s just about all of them.

  6. Anonymous Says:

    well heck….

    When I was reading the news I thought that the idea of petitioning Sony to use Be would be great. Can we outnumber the number of fanatical Linux users? Probably not. But if anyone starts a petition, I’d definitely sign it. I still see Sony as the best option for buying Be right now. Just because they haven’t bought Be yet doesn’t mean they won’t.

  7. Anonymous Says:

    QNX

    I think QNX, especially the latest QNX6 release has a really good chance of making it on the playstation 2. BeOS wasn’t designed for nor would perform nearly as well as QNX would on the playstation 2.

  8. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 3:51:49 PM

    Re: QNX

    QNX still doesn’t support many soundcards, USB, Firewire, CD-burners, many printers, tv cards, tv ouput, 3d need I go on?

  9. Anonymous Says:

    Umm..

    I’m sure you could, but.. uh.. why? :P What good would it do to have BeOS on a PS2? What’s wrong with just using it on your PC? Great for brag rights, but not a whole lot else…

  10. chrish_work Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 4:33:23 PM

    Re: Umm..

    Think “making it easier to write PlayStation 2 software” not “ooh neat, my favourite OS runs on PS2″…

    Being able to run a full-on OS on an embedded system during development saves you a huge amount of time and effort.

    - chrish

  11. 0dB Says:

    So let’s start a petition

    Now that Sony has announced plans to make whatever mileage it can out of the PS2 as a development/computing platform, maybe it’s too much to expect them to bother with more than one option.

    But I tell you, I like my PS2, and if I could add a hard drive and an ethernet or broadband connection, and use it as my BeOS machine, I’d be in heaven. One machine for DVD, audio (CD or MP3) and development? It would be quite frankly perfect.

    Sony have announced to the world they are open to the idea of running a desktop OS on their machine - please, start a BeOS petition. I’ve got 200 waiting. 400 for a finished product.

  12. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    funny to see sony waste resource in an upcoming console war on a linux that no one will use (the initila dev kit was linux based BTW).

    All this IMO is smoke to cover the current Be inc takeover …. soooooo obvious.

  13. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 3:57:34 PM

    Re: QNX

    but consoles don’t need a lot of hardware support - they just need to support what is on the console itself.

  14. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To chrish_work @ 04/26/2001 4:46:14 PM

    Re: Umm..

    Chrish,

    Are there any professional game dev. kits (like renderware) for Linux platform?

  15. Anonymous Says:

    [No Subject]

    It is only available in Japan.

  16. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 3:51:49 PM

    Unlikely

    QNX RtP with Intent running hosted on top of it would have been a sweet solution for the PS2. But like many companies, Sony will more likely use a specialized Linux version in combination with Intent, because of the fact that Linux is freely available to them. Also Linux is more hyped and better known than QNX RtP.

    Although QSSL works together with the Tao Group and Amiga, many 2rd party companies like Lineo and Espial will use an embedded Linux kernel in combination with Intent for their embedded solutions for multimedia enabled devices. The reason for this aren`t because of technical advantages, but are more practical to these companies. With using Linux they are not dependent upon another software vendor like QSSL. And they don`t have to pay royalties to anyone since QSSL employees have to eat.

    QNX RtP is excellent but for many devices its excellent abilities aren`t needed so much. As for a platform hosting intent, an host OS is primary an advantage for Intent because of driver availability. So Linux is reasonable a good choice for that.

  17. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 2:51:24 PM

    Re: Sony and Tao

    They did however invest millions into the development of Intent http://www.tao-group.com which is at the core of the Amiga Digital Environment

  18. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 3:49:38 PM

    Re: well heck….

    The question is, can you outnumber the Linux loving Japanese that also happen to have a PS2??! I think that number is perhaps tripple of the TOTAL BEOS userbase. Don’t kid yourself, BeOS has gone from “The Linux wannabe” to “BeOS? What’s that?” in less than a year.

  19. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To 0dB @ 04/26/2001 4:59:52 PM

    Re: So let’s start a petition

    BeOS would have to be ported to the Emotion engine first, that will take quite a few resources, which Be doesn’t have! Remember, the petition was set up to PUBLICLY RELEASE the Linux port, it was already done a long time ago!!!

    Looks like Linux is kicking BeOS in the nads, at every turn.

  20. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 5:26:02 PM

    Re: Umm..

    As Renderware3 will be available for Intent/AmigaDE SDKs and it will be used as an application layer for Linux by for big players like for instance Redhat and many other companies there will surely be a Renderware3 solution for Linux. Renderware3 is Sny`s choosen 3D solution for the PS2.

    SSEYO Joins Tao and Criterion in Digital Content Heaven

    Tao Receives Investment from Sony

  21. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 6:17:26 PM

    Re: Unlikely

    Exuse fro my pooor gramar and speling sinse I`m reely tyred and neet to get some sleep now. ;)

  22. gmlongo Says:

    eVilla?

    How long until Sony decides to replace BeIA with Linux on the eVilla?

    -G

  23. Anonymous Says:

    Why??

    I’m sorry, but doesn’t this whole discussion of putting operating systems on a game console seem just a bit redundant to anyone else?

    Who in their right mind would buy a PS2, fork over 200 $US for extra gear and a free OS (Linux, Be, whatever)when they could just buy a PC in the first place (you can hook them up to TVs too, you know), and run whatever the heck you wanted and not be stuck with the hardware in the console when it’s become obsolete.

    Game consoles havn’t made any sense to me since the days when my Atari 2600 had better graphics than my old TRS80.

    Sorry, just had to ask.

  24. Nutcase Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 6:48:48 PM

    Re: So let’s start a petition

    “Kick ‘em in the nards!!!”

    “He doesn’t _have_ nards!!!”

    “Kick ‘em there anyway!!!!”

    —Name that movie—

  25. Anonymous Says:

    In Response To Anonymous @ 04/26/2001 8:15:52 PM

    Re: Why??

    The PS2 has enough power to be an excellent general purpose computer next to being a simple game console.

    Do you remember the “ancient” Amiga CD32. People who bought this console could also add a keyboard, diskdrive, mouse, modem, printer, etc to it. In many ways Sony is reinventing the wheel. But Sony isn`t as stupid as Commodore and make the same idiot mistakes as they did.

    The advantage for having a playstation 2 instead of a PC is that you know for sure your hardware will be supported no matter what PS2 software you buy or download. All PS2s use the same hardware while every PC is different. This is a huge advantage for developers as well as consumers.

    A PS2 with hardrive, broadband internet connection, keyboard, mouse and a memory card for easily saving/exchanging files is enough to make it a suitable desktop replacement.

    Mass production of the console will allow it to be a very cheap alternative indeed. And it already is a good DVD player as well.

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